{"content":{"sharePage":{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"16997813","dateCreated":"1258438273","smartDate":"Nov 16, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"julieyoon","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/julieyoon","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/byrdhistory.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/16997813"},"dateDigested":1532389834,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Common Sense","description":"Colonists needed to hear this because he thought that the colonies would have been better if the European countries didn\u2019t exert their power over America. Britain says that they have protected the colonies, although Paine thinks that they are just looking after\/protecting the colonies for financial gain. The colonies weren\u2019t dependent on Britain and they wouldn\u2019t be enemies with other countries that are enemies with Britain. So Paine complains that if the Britain\u2019s never said all these things, that had bought the need of protection.
\nI believe that he labeled it Common Sense because","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"16997733","dateCreated":"1258438029","smartDate":"Nov 16, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"DanielleeFox","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/DanielleeFox","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1258376689\/DanielleeFox-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/byrdhistory.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/16997733"},"dateDigested":1532389834,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Daniel lee's beautiful answers","description":"Daniel Lee\u2019s US History Answers
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\nWhy did colonists need to hear this? and why do you believe that he labeled it Common Sense? Lastly do you believe that he is convincing?
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\nThey needed to know what they had done. After his speech, many people started to know and understand the reason why they had to fight against the Brits. Some people fought for nothing because they thought, \u201cEverybody else is doing it. Why can\u2019t I?\u201d Others had a different reason they tried to fight. Many loyalists thought this was insane. \u201cHow could you leave your own country and fight against it?\u201d They were very protective of the idea of not going against the Great Brits. Sadly, most of the colonists were patriots (Which meant that they wanted freedom for themselves) and they did not have enough power to win from them.
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\nThe words Common Sense shows us that this is a writing of people having common senses without any reasons. Some people need to know that common sense not cause and effects make this.
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\nNo, because he had referred with common sense. If he say that this is a common sense of being independence, then for the Brits it is common sense for them to keep what they own. So he is not very convincing.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"16997547","dateCreated":"1258437318","smartDate":"Nov 16, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"EstherYoon0211","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/EstherYoon0211","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/byrdhistory.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/16997547"},"dateDigested":1532389834,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Common Sense","description":"Why did colonists need to hear this? and why do you believe that he labeled it Common Sense? Lastly do you believe that he is convincing?
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\nThe colonists really needed to hear this because they were still in indecision about whether to fight against Britain or not, even though they had already fought several battles. If they stayed in this state of indecision, they would not earn anything from the battles and they would fight and lost men for nothing. They needed to put in their full effort in order to fight an army as great as the British army, so they couldn\u2019t just put in a half-hearted effort or they would suffer the consequences of battle while gaining nothing. I think he labeled it Common Sense because the message he was trying to get across to the colonists was to have common sense and realize that being a part of Britain was just hurting them (taxes) and they were getting nothing in return. I believe that he was pretty convincing because I personally would have decided to go against Britain if I was a colonist and had read this pamphlet. I also really liked his analogies (they made his message easier to understand and relate to).
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\nBY: ESTHER YOON(:","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"16997453","dateCreated":"1258436758","smartDate":"Nov 16, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"byrd20","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/byrd20","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/byrdhistory.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/16997453"},"dateDigested":1532389835,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Common Sense","description":"Why did colonists need to hear this? and why do you believe that he labeled it Common Sense? Lastly do you believe that he is convincing?","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"16997757","body":" The colonists had to hear this so that they could change their mind if they are not sure if they should still be loyal to the British or become an independent American. The colonists could not be neutral, but they still did not want to be under the power of the British. So Thomas Pain had to write this so they can stick to his side, or the independent side.
\n I think Thomas named this \u201cCommon Sense\u201d to show how awfully obvious this is, and to show how people are stupid if they don\u2019t notice. I think it helped the colonists to agree with him because it named it \u201cCommon Sense.\u201d When you hear common sense, it feels like you are stupid if you do not know or agree with it, just because it\u2019s a common sense.
\n I think he is convincing, because I agree with everything he says. Which doesn\u2019t always make him right, but I think his metaphor about a baby and milk really makes sense and is creative. He is really good at explaining his feelings.","dateCreated":"1258438098","smartDate":"Nov 16, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"princess_aeri","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/princess_aeri","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"16997769","body":"The colonists needed to hear this because they were being ignorant and didn\u2019t want to listen to what was really going on and what the British were really doing. They needed to know that life could be a lot better if they were a separate country. Thomas Paine named it Common Sense because it is common sense to believe what he is saying. What he said was so simply put and was easy to understand. It was written to the people of the colonies so that they would understand the importance of becoming a separate country. Yes, I believe that Thomas Paine was convincing considering the fact that after his pamphlet was published more and more people became patriots. They believed in what he was speaking and didn\u2019t want to follow what the British were forcing them to do anymore. Thomas Paine was a very influential writer and convinced hundreds of people that it was the time for a changing in government.","dateCreated":"1258438127","smartDate":"Nov 16, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"TAYLORTRENTISRAD","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/TAYLORTRENTISRAD","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"16997771","body":"Colonists need to hear this because they can figure out if they want to still be part of the British people or if they want to be American. They can reason about their decisions. The colonists could decide and think about if it\u2019s right to be a separate country from England. They need to hear about how they should be Americans. I think it\u2019s called Common Sense because he thinks that these ideas are mostly what people would think was common sense or simple. Such as people don\u2019t want to fight with the British, but if you reason you can understand that the British was the whole cause of the war. It\u2019s common sense that the British had started the war so if they didn\u2019t start the war then the colonists wouldn\u2019t have to be protected. He thinks that this is common sense because he believes that these thoughts were facts and that most people should know all about these things. Maybe he thinks that it\u2019s common sense because he him self believes that the British Colonists should become American. I think that he\u2019s very convincing. It\u2019s true that if the British hadn\u2019t started the war then the colonists wouldn\u2019t have to be protected all the time. The British also wouldn\u2019t have had a great debt because they spent too much money on the war. The British are making the colonists pay for the war that they started. Paine is convincing because he writes down reasonable reasons. They are logical and most of them are partly true. The British and the British colonists are fighting so it would probably be hard for them to have peace with each other so it would probably just be better to become Americans.","dateCreated":"1258438131","smartDate":"Nov 16, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"AliceMoon","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/AliceMoon","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"16997785","body":"I think that the colonists needed to hear this so that they would have a reason to fight the British in the war. It\u2019s dumb if you go fight you in a war and die without knowing what you are fighting for.
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\nBob- \u201cWhy are we fighting again?\u201d
\nFrank- \u201cUmmm.. I\u2019m not sure.\u201d
\nBob- \u201cAw, man, Chris already died!\u201d
\nI think this guy labeled it Common Sense because he thought it was normal to think that the British should separate from the British and become a separate country.
\nI think this is convincing because he plans out everything for the colonists as a separate country. He points out how it is good to leave the mean British people and try to become a new country. This is convincing to people who want their own land, life, and not be controlled by some redcoated blabberers. I think all of the colonists would be influenced.","dateCreated":"1258438165","smartDate":"Nov 16, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"jinnyblue","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/jinnyblue","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"16997787","body":"The colonists need to hear this, because it tells them about the British tyranny over them and that they should not be a part of it. Paine says that Britain shouldn\u2019t govern over them, because it is only a small island, and America is a huge continent. He argues because he wants each colony to be different, each with its own leader, etc. Paine uses metaphors to back up his point. One metaphor he uses is this: A baby must never eat meat since it has flourished so far on only milk. He also uses the Stamp act of 1765 in his content. Paine says that it will be impossible to return to a state of peace and normalcy under British rule. I believe he labelled it common sense, because he thinks it is obvious that people should have a chance to govern themselves. He thinks all people wants the same thing he does. I believe he is convincing, because I believe in the point he makes.","dateCreated":"1258438169","smartDate":"Nov 16, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"AleksiNurmy","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/AleksiNurmy","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"16997791","body":"Colonists needed to hear this article because many were unsure about their loyalty to the colonies. They believed they were still British, and that they were not supposed to rebel. This caused many difficulties for the colonists who felt rebellious about the British. They could not recruit these people into their militia. Colonists needed every person they could get, because their militia would have to go against the biggest and most advanced army in the continent. He labeled this Common Sense because he believed that this should be common knowledge to all colonists. The colonists should be sure in their loyalty. I believe he is convincing. He stated that just because the colonies grew up with milk, does not mean they should never taste meat. The colonies may have been raised by the colonies, but just for a financial purpose. They had no strong ties between the British and the colonies. There was no important reason for the Colonies to have a taste of freedom.","dateCreated":"1258438195","smartDate":"Nov 16, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"BRIANNNNN","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/BRIANNNNN","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"16997793","body":"Why did colonists need to hear this? and why do you believe that he labeled it Common Sense? Lastly do you believe that he is convincing?
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\n1. The colonists were being \u201cpersecuted\u201d and abused. I think Paine believed that the colonists should step up and stand up for themselves by becoming a free country. In order to become a free and united country, majority of the people have to agree to fight against the British. It was important for the colonists to hear about Common Sense and understand\/realize that the need to pursue freedom is necessary. Common Sense is a literary persuasion used to argue against the Loyalist and insure that the colonists had the power of freedom.
\n2. I think Paine named Common Sense, Common Sense, because he believed that the idea of a country that was a few thousand miles away ruling them, ridiculous. Paine thought that it was common sense for them to pursue their freedom.
\n3. Yes, he explained the situation very well and supported his reasons with very hardcore facts. All his predictions on the effects of looking for peace are very likely. He uses very realistic metaphors to describe the colonists position and how they are treated.","dateCreated":"1258438203","smartDate":"Nov 16, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"tedchoi","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/tedchoi","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"16997797","body":"The colonists considered themselves as the British, because they were British decent. However many of them had less rights and they were being financially used. Colonists were enemies to other European countries that were the enemies of England. Considering these facts, the British were actually causing harm to the colonists and their future. Therefore the colonists had to know that they were not responsible for reconciliation with the British; also since British did not submit to French. This passage is named \u201cCommon Sense\u201d since the writer thought it was common sense, seeing how the British wanted to use colonist, and wanting to keep them babies as long as they can, under mother. Lastly I do agree that this passage is convincing. It is not logical how a small country should control a continent. Also, the British were not a good governor, since they continuously issued revenue act. They obviously kept the colonists for financial matters. I agree that the colonists should get full independence for guaranteed legacy for the descendents. I am convinced that growing independent will benefit them in long terms.","dateCreated":"1258438210","smartDate":"Nov 16, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"yerinchu","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/yerinchu","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"16997825","body":"Paul Cho
\nU.S. History 8th
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\nDiscussion: Why did colonists need to hear this? and why do you believe that he labeled it Common Sense? Lastly do you believe that he is convincing? 0 out of 1 found this valuable.
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\nIn my opinion, the colonists definitely needed his speech and had to listen to his ideas. His speech was very reasonable that people have rights in their own colony. He reminded the colonists that they are living in a world where they could not taste the true freedom under the king\u2019s rule and monarchy. He thought that people should know that the rights that they should obviously have. But he knew that people did not realize the unfairness and mistreatment of the British government and the king. It is necessary that his people, the colonists, should know rights that should be kept as a citizen of a country. Unfortunately, the colonists weren\u2019t treated as they were supposed to be, and Paine just notified them. The reason why he posted the speech as a common sense is because that it is really a \u201ccommon sense\u201d to know their rights. It is common sense to protect your own rights and he recognized the people that they should know now as a common sense. In my opinion, he is a man who really thought of his treatments that he received and truly acted immediately through his speech and action. It is one of the civilized way to express his ideas to the colonists and had his thought clear too. Colonists will know that now their own rights are common sense, instead of a special given authority by the king family. It also amazes me that nobody in the colony ever thought about the mistreatments that they received. Thomas Paine notified the importance of freedom from the kingship, and did the right thing to spread his words.","dateCreated":"1258438299","smartDate":"Nov 16, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"pAuLcHo","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/pAuLcHo","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"16997829","body":"The colonists needed to hear this because this was important to the colonies and because if they wanted to defeat the British this would be important. The colonists wanted to win the war so this would be good to hear to encourage them and keep them going. Thomas Paine labeled this common sense because if you used your mind this would be kind of obvious. Yes I believe this is convincing because if I was fighting in the war this would be encouraging to me. He mentions the stamp act in this and most of the colonists did not like the stamp act and if I were a colonist I wouldn\u2019t of liked it either. I think the colonists will fight harder now because of the common sense.
\nJared swanson","dateCreated":"1258438306","smartDate":"Nov 16, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"jaredswanson","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/jaredswanson","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"16997845","body":" Colonists needed to hear this because this was the time that the colonists were divided between independence and British rule. The colonists are debating whether they should become a country itself or depend on the British rule. They are searching for a way to establish a government for their country. I think this is labeled as \u201cCommon Sense\u201d because Paine believed it was obvious that the colonists should break free from the British rule. Paine argues that history would only repeat itself if the colonists don\u2019t seek full independence. He says that it would be nearly impossible for the country to return to a state of peace under Britain after the countless number of battles and financial problems. Yes, I think this is convincing because I believe that if America stays under British rule, the country will face financial problems. America should break free from the British because as a independent country, America would be able to establish its own government with its own rule that would satisfy its people.","dateCreated":"1258438419","smartDate":"Nov 16, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"juliapark96","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/juliapark96","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"16997859","body":"I think that the colonists needed to have good examples or ways to tell others what they think. They didn\u2019t have any good evidence, for the British, before that. The colonists might have needed to have some good reasons to justify their actions. It would get other colonists thinking about what they have done with Britain and how it might be a better idea to separate from them since they haven\u2019t been flourishing. It might change the minds of some colonists who are loyalist or maybe patriot. Common Sense would seem like a good name for the colonists. They think that it is common sense to separate from Britain and to start a new country. The colonists don\u2019t think that they are being unwise with their decisions so it would be normal to call it common sense. I think that it would help the colonists who are already patriots to see why they are going against the British. It is convincing, it makes the British sound like they are holding on too tightly to the colonies and the colonies seem like they are right in their decisions. He does have good points in his pamphlet.","dateCreated":"1258438498","smartDate":"Nov 16, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"KathrynFranck","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/KathrynFranck","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":4}]}],"more":false},"comments":[]},"http":{"code":200,"status":"OK"},"redirectUrl":null,"javascript":null,"notices":{"warning":[],"error":[],"info":[],"success":[]}}